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two quick politics articles [Oct. 9th, 2008|03:44 pm]
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Work = good. Throat = about the same as yesterday = meh.

The Obama Surge: Will it Last? - good short article that highlights the fact that Americans might be ready for the real change in health care Obama is proposing.

Rage in the Town of Bethlehem - more ugliness at McCain rallies. Includes this bit:
Even the opening prayer was politically charged. "O God, we are in a battle that is raging for the soul of this nation," the preacher said. "You, O God, have raised up Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin for such a time as this." The preacher went on: "Help them, O God, to strengthen our economy, to keep our taxes and spending low . . . and grant them the privilege of being elected the next president and vice president."
I guess God is for lower taxes and spending. Who woulda thunk it? (actually, this makes me kinda mad)
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From: tehfanboi
2008-10-09 09:42 pm (UTC)
God's got a risk tax and spend plan there. I'm an agnostic and that pisses me off. I'm all for people believing whatever they want, but to use religion as a policy justification is offensive.
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[User Picture]From: gregstoll
2008-10-09 09:51 pm (UTC)
Talking about abortion in a religious context is OK by me - I may disagree or whatever, but it is a moral issue.

Taxes and spending: not a moral issue!
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[User Picture]From: medryn
2008-10-09 11:40 pm (UTC)
There is certainly stuff in the bible about taxes and lending:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATT+22:17-21&version=9;

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2023:19-20&version=9;

I guess that spending could also be a moral issue because it could be gluttonous or motivated by envy.
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[User Picture]From: gregstoll
2008-10-10 02:29 pm (UTC)
Well, the first passage is about paying taxes and how you should, and the second is about not charging interest which is out the window for pretty much everyone these days.

I agree that spending on a personal level could be a moral issue, but I don't think the government is motivated by envy...
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[User Picture]From: djedi
2008-10-10 04:33 pm (UTC)
Actually, the biblical stance against usury is pretty strong although you're right...I think that ship has sailed off into fantasy land.
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[User Picture]From: medryn
2008-10-10 04:35 pm (UTC)
Isn't "usury" usually interpreted to mean an outrageous amount of interest, rather than any amount of interest at all?
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[User Picture]From: djedi
2008-10-10 04:48 pm (UTC)
The idea of what's outrageous varies by time period and circumstances though.

Originally, I believe, usury meant any interest, but these days it just refers to outrageous interest since we've come to accept interest as acceptable due to inflation and other factors. I think dictionary.com discusses the now obsolete definition in its entry.
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[User Picture]From: medryn
2008-10-10 04:36 pm (UTC)
I think there was a little bit of envy motivation when we were trying to beat the USSR to the moon :-)
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From: abstractseaweed
2008-10-10 01:13 am (UTC)
They're ignoring the 2nd commandment, "Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain." Invoking His name for political purposes doesn't seem right, yet the right does it all the time.
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[User Picture]From: djedi
2008-10-10 04:34 pm (UTC)
This is what pisses me off the most, using religion/God as a political tool.
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